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You can find PCs for as low as $299 and $399. These PCs use updated versions of old microprocessors, eg Pentium 4, or Centrino. Or they use laptop microprocessors–in a desktop. They’ll work just fine, but they’ll be noticeably slower.
For a while…
Such PC’s i predict will usable for 2 years (it’s 2013 now, so til 2015). By 4 years (ie in 2017), i predict they will become unusably slow, taking 2-4 minutes to boot, with surfing the web requiring a significant wait (30-60 seconds) per page.
OTOH, for about $500-$600 (or, $100-$200 more) you can get a 2G or even 3G Intel Core-i3, i5, or i7 processor or equivalent AMD processor. These CPUs should last 4-6 years (so until 2017-2019) and i would not expect to reach that grind-to-a-halt state until 6-8 years (2021).
So that’s like 2x the life for 25% more cost.
8/25/2014: i can find 4G i5’s for only as cheap as $750 at best. Thus that’s now $250-$350 more.
Example of processor variations from Intel
- Intel Core i5-4430 – lower number, lower cost, lower perf
- Intel Core i5-4570 – lower number, lower cost, lower perf
- Intel Core i5-4670 – standard, neutral
- Intel Core i5-4670S – ‘S’ means low power
- Intel Core i5-4670K – ‘K’ stands for “unlocked” meaning hobbyists can “overclock” it
I don’t think the average user needs 2 of 5.25inch bays. All these low end PCs come with DVD-writers. Eventually, you are probably going to want a blu-ray reader, and/or writer. But this will be a $50-$100 upgrade plus installation 2-4 years from now. If you want to watch blu-ray movies now, you’ll have to make that upgrade immediately after purchasing.
USB 3.0 will be big soon. (update 2014: “soon” is now.) Almost all USB is 2.0 right now. USB 3.0 is available now and good to get now. There’s a faster version of 3.0 coming out very soon in 2013, but even today’s USB 3.0 is 10x USB 2.0.
The 11 Places I shop:
- TigerDirect
- newegg
- Best Buy
- Staples
- CDW
- hp.com
- Walmart
- Costco
- OfficMax
- OfficeDepot
- JR.com
- overstock.com
- Beach Audio
- b&h photo video
Here are the choices available from different vendors in this price range for this performance. Note date of price check for each PC listed.
Table Notes:
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shipping |
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product |
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vendor |
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OS (home/pro 32/64bit) |
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processor |
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chipset |
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Motherboard |
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memory pre nstalled |
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max memory |
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mem type, speed |
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mem slots total |
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disk size |
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disk rpm |
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disk SATA speed (II 3Gb/s, III 6Gb/s |
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disk SSD |
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disk 3.25 bays total |
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disk 2.5 bays total |
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optical drive (blu-ray rd/wr? / dvd-wr?) |
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5.25 bays total |
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usb 3.0 – front |
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usb 3.0 – rear |
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usb 3.0 – top |
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usb 2.0 – front |
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usb 2.0 – rear |
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usb 2.0 – top |
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hdmi |
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dvi |
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pci slots |
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sata ports |
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Ethernet RJ45 100Mbps or Gigabit 1000Mbps |
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power supply |
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Warranty |
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Small Form Factor (SFF)? |
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Notes
Processor
The difference between 3rd Generation and 2nd Generation intel processors is not that great:
EG,
Feature |
2nd Generation |
3rd Generation |
Graphics |
HD 2000 |
HD 2500 |
Graphics |
– |
HD 4000 |
Mem Speed |
1333MHz |
1600MHz 20% faster |
Office Depot & Office Max & Staples
Office Depot had nothing <$600 with intel processor.
Office Max had a p7-1410 and p7-1510 both have H61 chipset.
Staples lowest price intel was envy h8-1430 $799
10/24/2013: newegg didnt have any non-small-form-factor (SFF) hp pc’s. They had very few, but did have 400 or so refurbished hp pc’s.
10/25/2013: OfficeMax only 2 refurbished PCs with windows 7 according to their search
10/28/2013: completed search for win7 32bit on TigerDirect, newegg, best buy (with marketplace), walmart, staples:
- Genuine Windows 7 Professional (17) (DONE)
- Genuine Windows 7 Professional Upgradable to Genuine Windows 8 Pro (15) (DONE)
- Genuine Windows 7 Professional Upgradable to Genuine Windows 8 Pro (English) (1) (DONE – was an AiO)
- Windows 7 Professional (121) (abort-have to click on every one to see os version, too inefficient)
office max, office depot, beachaudio (could not search) or is it beach camera? jr.com, next bhphotovideo.com?
Example Decision : 2014-05-27:
e1z75ut |
HP ProDesk 600 G1 |
Core-i5–4570 |
Q85 |
w8 alt |
f4j95ut |
HP ProDesk 600 G1 |
Core-i5–4570 |
Q85 |
w8.1 alt |
f4j92ut |
HP ProDesk 600 G1 |
Core-i5–4670 |
Q85 |
w8.1 alt |
f4k88ut |
HP ProDesk 600 G1 |
Core-i3 |
Q85 |
w8.1 alt |
e1z94ut |
HP EliteDesk 800 G1 |
Core-i5 |
Q87 |
w8? alt |
e1z89ut |
HP EliteDesk 800 G1 |
Core-i7 |
Q87 |
w8? alt |
Example Decision : 2013-12-10:
core i5 |
C6Z98UT TigerDirect |
$714.55 = $699.99 + Ground (2 to 6 days) [$14.56] |
C6Z98UT TigerDirect |
$730.94 = $699.99 + Second Day (2 days) [$30.95] |
C6Z98UT best Buy |
$722.30 = $722.30 + free shipping 6-9 days |
C6Z98UT CDW |
$753.00 = $729.99 + UPS Ground 2-3 business days $23.01 |
HP D8C53UT Desktop PC, Core i7-3570 (really i5) Stpales |
$692.07 = $728.49 – $36.42 free shipping |
HP® D8C57UT 6300 i5-3470 Staples |
out of stock |
HP® D8C57UT 6300 i5-3470 newegg |
discontinued out of stock |
HP® D8C57UT 6300 i5-3470 jr |
out of stock |
HP® D8C57UT 6300 i5-3470 overstock.com |
$???.?? = $739.18 + ???? $??.?? BUT OUT OF STOCK |
HP® D8C57UT 6300 i5-3470 office depot |
$???.?? = $658.90 + ???? $??.?? BUT OUT OF STOCK |
HP® D8C57UT 6300 i5-3470 beach audio |
out of stock |
HP® D8C57UT 6300 i5-3470 CDW |
$700.00 = $676.99 + UPS Ground 2-3 business days about $23 |
core i3 |
D8C62UT Staples |
$639.99 = $639.99 + free shipping 3 days |
D8C62UT Office Depot |
$645.95 = $645.95 + free 3-5 days |
D8C62UT CDW |
$671.24 = $649.99 + UPS Ground 2-3 business days $21. |
D8C62UT |
$ = $ + |
D8C62UT |
$ = $ + |
D8C62UT |
$ = $ + |
D8C62UT |
$ = $ + |
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